437 sections · 0 sources
Purpose
Purpose of This Document
The purpose of this document is to evaluate whether and how to pursue a national foie gras
ban in the United States. It lays out the strategic case for and against undertaking this
effort, identifies the key unresolved questions, and presents a preliminary architecture for
how a ban could be achieved. This includes a high-level funding strategy, major strategic
pathways, expected constraints, and rough cost estimates. The document is intended to
clarify the decision space, outline viable strategic models, and provide a foundation for
determining whether and how to move forward.
Supporting Documents:
-
Facts
What does victory mean?
Definition of Victory
Core Definition
● Victory = U.S. industry permanent eradication:
○ Making foie gras production in the U.S. economically and politically impossible;
○ shutting down all domestic farms and preventing functional import
substitution.
● Two-Part Definition:
(1) Eliminate all major domestic producers (HVFG and La Belle).
(2) Secure strong policies (city/state/federal) that prevent foie gras sales and choke
off imports.
Preferred Metrics
● Domestic production volume: Track tonnage falling from ~370 tons toward zero.
● Number of animals: Track ducks from ~500k toward zero as a moral and strategic
metric.
● Revenue and financial output: Dollars of business may be the single most telling
indicator of collapse.
● Market availability: Percentage of U.S. retail/restaurant markets legally closed off.
Secondary Metrics
● Number of Farms Remaining:
● Number of States where Foie Gras Production is still legal
Strategic Logic of Victory
Closing HVFG & La Belle
● Primary objective: Shut down Hudson Valley Foie Gras and La Belle Farm — the only
actors with deep, long-term incentives to defend foie gras in the U.S.
● Why they matter: They fund all legal, political, and PR defenses; they are the
backbone of supply; they fight every ban. They are the actors actually causing the
majority of harm to foie gras. They are gone, domestic production would need to
rebuild, which would be hard and likely stamped out before reestablished.
● Impact of closure: Once they are gone, the landscape becomes far more favorable
for policy, imports become easier to restrict, and the industry loses its core political
engine.
● Two pathways toward closing them fundamentally, and likely both need to happen to
some extent and at some time, but one i believe is m,ore directly pursuable than the
other. The first and more pathway is economic attrition - primarily by removal of
markets through local sales bans, other economic attrition by by increasing costs of
dong business . The second, more evnetual, and final pathways is through production
bans - specially New York state, but ideally nationwide at some point.
Economic Attrition Strategy
Perhaps economics attrition is teh wrong word for this, but there’s essentially two prongs
here: the supply and the demand. On the supply side, it’s less important, but part of the
bankruptcy equation for sure. Increase the costs of doing business. Their fixed costs are the
same, they can’t just so easily scale bank production. There’s things that can happen thati
increase fixed costs such as lawsuits, policy ifhts. The more important side in the analysis is
the dmeand side, the dmeand is largely restaurants, luxury restaurants located in cities.
Ther’es lots of ways of getting these restaurants to drop foie gras, but the most powerful is
by policy menas where it’s literally forbidden to sell it in an area. This leads to policital and
cultural momentum and literally cuts off a market. While we want to loook at ways atdriving
up costs for them, the writing presents itself as on the wall for them the more that these
political victories happen literally through the economic logic of cutting off markets.
● Raise costs + shrink demand: The path to closure is increasing operating costs
(legal, political, reputational) while shrinking market opportunities.
● Demand suppression deters new entrants: Fewer buyers = no incentive for new
farms or foreign suppliers to expand.
● Asymmetric warfare: Choose actions that cost us very little but force the farms to
spend heavily on lawyers, lobbyists, compliance, and PR.
● Every hit to HVFG/La Belle is beneficial: Any financial, political, or narrative damage
moves the industry closer to collapse.
Because the primary way for shrinking demand is city and state policies forbidding the sales
of this, we are going to lay out why this is the most important lever, and then more concisely
describe the logic of removal that we will more thoroughly explore in a later document. We
will then lay out an adjacent strategy as well.
Tab 9
Policy as the Central Mechanism for Eliminating the
U.S. Foie Gras Industry
0. Strategic Bottom Line
● The core objective is industry collapse: the permanent shutdown of Hudson Valley
Foie Gras (HVFG) and La Belle Farm. If these two facilities close, U.S. foie gras
production ends.
● Policy is the only tool that can:
○ Remove markets at scale
○ Impose structural costs
○ Lock in permanent decline
● In practice, collapse comes from:
○ City sales bans in key metros, especially NYC, Chicago, DC, Boston,
Philadelphia, Denver, and
○ A New York State production ban that eliminates both farms in one step.
● Hard states and metros like Texas, Florida, Nevada are not necessary for collapse.
The industry cannot survive the loss of NYC + Chicago + a handful of East Coast and
Mountain West wins.
1. Why Policy Matters
Policy does three things that consumer campaigns and voluntary pledges cannot: it erases
markets, drains the farms’ resources, and builds momentum toward a definitive end.
A. Market Elimination
● Foie gras demand is overwhelmingly restaurant-driven and hyper-concentrated in
a few metros.
● When a jurisdiction bans foie gras sales, that entire regional market disappears
overnight.
● A single city—New York City—accounts for roughly a quarter of national demand
(~25–27%). Losing NYC is a massive structural blow, not a marginal loss.
B. Cost Imposition
● Every proposed ban forces HVFG and La Belle to engage in legal, lobbying, and PR
defense.
● They cannot ignore precedents; each victory against them encourages the next
jurisdiction.
● There is no broad industry to spread these costs across—only two farms. Even small
fights hurt.
C. Political & Cultural Momentum
● City bans are usually easier to pass; state bans are stronger and harder to overturn.
● Each win normalizes the idea that force-feeding is politically unacceptable, making
subsequent bans easier and reducing the odds of industry reconstitution.
● NYC is the clearest case: one city win has both enormous economic impact and high
symbolic value.
2. Policy Tools
A. Sales Bans
Sales bans are the primary mechanism for shrinking the market because they directly
remove foie gras from menus.
1. City Sales Bans
City bans are usually the most realistic and can deliver outsized national impact.
Illustrative demand shares:
● New York City: ~25–27%
● Chicago: ~10–12%
● Washington DC Metro: ~8–10%
● Las Vegas: ~9%
● Florida metros (Miami, Orlando, etc.): ~10%
● Texas majors (Houston, DFW, Austin/San Antonio): ~10%
A small number of metros control 60%+ of U.S. foie gras demand.
Even ignoring difficult venues (Las Vegas, Texas, Florida), winning Chicago, DC,
Philadelphia, Boston, Denver, Portland severely weakens the industry.
Strategic notes:
● City bans are viable even where state-level change is impossible.
● They do the majority of practical work in shrinking the national market.
● NYC is legislatively won; its status now depends entirely on litigation.
2. State Sales Bans
Statewide bans are:
● Broader and more durable
● Harder to overturn
● Useful for eliminating city-level loopholes
In states where one metro dominates consumption, the additional economic impact beyond
that city is modest (e.g. New York beyond NYC; Pennsylvania beyond Philadelphia; Colorado
beyond Denver). But state bans are still valuable because they:
● Lock in the win
● Reduce legal vulnerability
● Provide a platform for adding production bans
3. Small and Mid-Sized Cities
Small and mid-sized cities (Evanston, Boulder, Aurora, etc.) have minimal direct economic
impact but provide:
● Activist skill-building and leadership development
● Media and cultural signaling
● Incremental pressure on nearby major metros
● Proof of concept that “this can be done”
These jurisdictions are ideal for local groups and could be supported via a
bounty/mini-grant model.
B. Production Bans (State-Level Only)
Cities cannot regulate production. Only states can prohibit force-feeding and foie gras
production outright.
Strategic Significance
● California’s production ban eliminated one of the three U.S. producers, causing a
~20% national contraction (from ~450 to ~370 tons).
● A New York State production ban would eliminate the remaining two
producers—HVFG and La Belle—in one step.
● This is the endgame mechanism: once New York bans production, domestic foie gras
is over.
Interaction with NYC Litigation
● If the NYC ban is struck down, it strengthens the argument that the issue must be
resolved at the state level.
● If the NYC ban is upheld, the state can:
○ Extend the sales ban statewide, and
○ Add a production ban that eliminates the farms entirely.
Either way, the production-ban path remains viable and decisive.
Practical Notes
● A New York production ban is politically harder than a sales ban, but
order-of-magnitude more impactful.
● It can be pursued as part of a combined sales + production package.
● Production bans elsewhere have limited direct impact but may carry symbolic or
momentum value, especially post-collapse.
● Once HVFG and La Belle shut down or declare bankruptcy, pushing production bans
in other states—or federally—becomes much easier, as there is no organized
domestic opposition left.
C. Product-Type Bans (Foie Gras vs. Force-Fed Products)
Foie Gras–Specific Bans
● Prohibit only the sale of foie gras.
● Simple, intuitive, and widely used formula.
Force-Fed Product Bans
● Ban all products derived from force-fed animals (not just foie gras).
● Focus on the practice (force-feeding) rather than a single dish.
● Hit multiple product lines and thus broaden economic impact.
● Jurisdictions like Pittsburgh have used this framing.
Considerations
● Producers could attempt to market alleged “non–force-fed alternatives,” complicating
enforcement.
● The force-fed framework is morally and strategically stronger, but requires careful
legal drafting and political vetting.
3. Strategic Targeting of Locations
A. Criteria for Choosing Targets
1. Economic Impact
○ How much of the national market does the jurisdiction represent?
○ After California, production dropped by ~20%.
○ A surviving NYC ban could drive a similarly large contraction and destabilize
the entire industry.
2. Winnability
○ Can we realistically pass a ban with the political conditions and resources
available?
○ Is lobbying sufficient, or is a ballot measure required (and possible)?
3. Momentum Value
○ Does a jurisdiction meaningfully:
■ Build activist infrastructure?
■ Generate favorable media?
■ Increase pressure on more important targets?
B. High-Impact Target Markets (Headline View)
You don’t need the full table in the main text; you need the strategic picture:
● NYC (~25–27%) – crown jewel; already won legislatively; litigation is decisive.
● Chicago (~10%) – essential for most “fast-collapse” paths.
● Las Vegas (~9%) – big market, politically hard.
● DC Metro, Miami/Palm Beach, Boston, Philadelphia, Houston, DFW, New Orleans –
collectively a large share of demand.
● A long tail of metros (Seattle, Atlanta, Orlando, Honolulu, Denver, Austin/San Antonio,
Phoenix/Scottsdale, Portland, Minneapolis–St Paul, Charleston, etc.) and dozens of
mid-sized cities contributing the remaining ~15–20%.
I’d keep the full table in an Appendix: Top Foie Gras Markets, with ducks / pounds / dollars.
C. Cultural/Momentum Value of Smaller Cities
Smaller jurisdictions like Evanston, Boulder, Aurora:
● Add little direct economic damage.
● Do a lot for:
○ Local activist development
○ Movement morale
○ Media narrative (“foie gras is disappearing from civilized cities”)
● Slightly increase win probability in nearby major metros.
They are political accelerators, not economic drivers.
4. Ballot Measures vs. Legislative Lobbying
A. What Has Happened So Far
● All U.S. foie gras bans to date—NYC, Pittsburgh, Brookline, Chicago’s brief ban,
California’s retail ban—came through legislative lobbying, not ballot measures.
B. Where Ballot Measures Are Feasible
Ballot measures are available in roughly half of states and are:
● More durable, harder to repeal.
● More expensive and resource-intensive.
● More visible, which can cut both ways (more support, but more opposition).
Potential ballot-measure venues:
● Washington DC
● Denver
● Portland
● Possibly Las Vegas
● Possibly Miami
● Possibly some Texas metros (depending on local law)
Not realistic for:
● Chicago
● Philadelphia
● Boston
C. Strategic Assessment
Because foie gras is low-salience, quiet legislative lobbying is usually superior:
● Lower cost
● Less opposition mobilization
● Faster wins
Chicago may be a rare exception where a ballot measure could be worth considering to lock
in a strong, durable ban, but only if the political math is favorable.
5. Collapse Modeling (High-Level)
You don’t need every step of the duck-count math in the main text, but you do need the
headline story.
A. Baseline Market
Approximate national baseline (directional, not exact stats):
● ~500,000 ducks/year
● ~740,000 lbs/year
● ~$47M market
B. NYC-Holds Scenario
If the NYC sales ban survives litigation, the industry immediately loses:
● ~135,000 ducks
● ~200,000 lbs
● ~$12.5M
→ Roughly 27% of national demand
New baseline:
● ~365,000 ducks
● ~540,000 lbs
● ~$34.5M
C. Collapse Curve (Simplified)
Using ducks for clarity:
● NYC holds → industry at ~73% of original.
● Add DC, Philadelphia, Portland, Denver, and follow-on state bans in PA and MA →
industry shrinks to ~50% of original.
● Add Chicago → down to ~40–45%, likely below operational viability for a two-farm
industry.
● Add West Coast / Mountain states (WA, OR, CO, HI) → ~34–35%. At that point,
collapse is a question of “when,” not “if.”
D. Why Hard States Are Not Needed
Even without wins in Texas, Florida, Nevada:
● The combination of NYC + Chicago + DC + Boston + Philadelphia + a handful of
city/state bans moves the industry into the 30–40% range, which is probably
nonviable for HVFG and La Belle.
● These states are high-cost, low-odds fights. They are optional, not core.
E. Alternate Path If NYC Fails
If NYC’s ban is struck down:
● You can replace NYC in the model with a New York State sales + production ban,
which removes the same underlying production and a similar share of demand.
● The collapse curve is slower without an immediate NYC win but still converges on the
same outcome once New York State and Chicago are secured.
Full scenario trees and detailed tables belong in an Appendix: Collapse Pathways and
Market Scenarios.
Policy Strategy Disorg
Policy as the Central Mechanism for Eliminating the
U.S. Foie Gras Industry
Why Policy Matters
Policy is the only mechanism that reliably removes markets, imposes structural costs, and
accumulates political momentum in ways that HVFG and La Belle cannot withstand. Three
dynamics give policy its power:
A. Market Elimination
● Foie gras demand is restaurant-driven and geographically concentrated.
● When a city prohibits sales, the entire regional market disappears overnight.
● Losing a single major metro wipes out a material share of national demand (NYC ≈
25%).
B. Cost Imposition
● Every ban forces the farms to engage in legal and political defense.
● They cannot ignore precedents; they must fight each attempt.
● Even small jurisdictions create costs they cannot spread across a large industry
(because there is no large industry—only HVFG and La Belle).
C. Political Momentum
● City bans are easier to pass; state bans are stronger and harder to overturn.
● Wins at either level build inertia and legitimacy for broader action.
● NYC demonstrates that a single city can inflict massive economic harm.
1. Core Policy Tools
A. Sales Bans
Sales bans are the main policy tool because they directly remove foie gras from the market.
City Sales Bans
Cities are the most feasible venue and often deliver disproportionate national impact.
Approximate national demand shares:
● New York City – ~25%
● Chicago – ~10–12%
● Washington DC – ~8–10%
● Las Vegas – ~9%
● Florida metros – ~10%
● Texas majors – ~10%
A handful of metros account for ~60%+ of U.S. consumption.
Even without difficult metros (Las Vegas, Texas, Florida), wins in Chicago, D.C.,
Philadelphia, Boston, Denver would severely weaken the industry.
Strategic notes:
● City bans are realistic even in states where statewide action is impossible.
● They do the majority of practical work in shrinking the national market.
● NYC is legislatively won; litigation determines whether it becomes operative.
State Sales Bans
Statewide bans are:
● Broader and more durable.
● Harder to overturn in court.
● Likely to follow after key city wins.
However, in states where one metro dominates demand, the marginal economic impact of
going statewide is modest.
Examples:
● New York State beyond NYC
● Pennsylvania beyond Philadelphia
● Colorado beyond Denver
The strategic value of state sales bans lies in:
● Eliminating loopholes
● Hardening the policy
● Building precedent for a future production ban
Small and Mid-Sized Cities
Low economic impact, but they:
● Build activist capacity
● Create political/press momentum
● Increase odds of wins in nearby major metros
● Show feasibility at low cost
These can be done by small local groups; a bounty/mini-grant model could accelerate them.
B. Production Bans (State-Level Only)
Cities cannot regulate production; only states can.
Strategic Significance
● California’s production ban eliminated one of the three U.S. producers outright.
● A New York State production ban would eliminate both remaining farms (HVFG and
La Belle).
● This is the endgame mechanism: total termination of domestic production in a single
policy action.
Interaction with NYC Litigation
● If NYC’s ban is struck down → strengthens the case for the state to step in.
● If NYC’s ban is upheld → state can extend it statewide and also end production
entirely.
Either way, the production-ban route remains viable and decisive.
Practical Notes
● A New York State production ban is harder than a sales ban, but infinitely more
impactful.
● A sales + production ban could be combined in one legislative package.
● Production bans in other states have little practical impact unless they have symbolic
or momentum value.
● Once HVFG and La Belle collapse or go bankrupt, pushing production bans
elsewhere—including federally—becomes far easier.
C. Product-Type Bans (Foie Gras vs. Force-Fed Products)
Foie Gras–Specific Bans
● Only target foie gras.
● Simpler, familiar, widely used.
Force-Fed Product Bans
● Ban all products derived from force-fed animals.
● Focus on the underlying practice rather than one dish.
● Broader economic impact because it hits multiple product lines.
● Jurisdictions like Pittsburgh have used this framing.
Considerations
● Producers may attempt to claim non–force-fed “alternatives,” creating enforcement
ambiguity.
● The force-fed framing is morally and strategically stronger but needs more legal and
political vetting.
2. Policy Opportunities by Level of Government
A. City-Level Policy Opportunities
The lion’s share of realistic wins sits at the city level.
Major Metros That Matter
High-impact targets:
● New York City (won; litigation pending)
● Chicago
● Washington DC
● Philadelphia
● Boston
● Denver
Large but difficult:
● Las Vegas
● Texas Triangle (Dallas–Fort Worth, Houston, Austin)
● Miami
You’re not arguing for pursuing all of these.
The core point is: some cities matter disproportionately, and they are the hinge points of the
entire campaign.
Minor Cities
● Suitable for local activists.
● Practically trivial for us to support.
● Provide momentum, signaling, and incremental pressure on major metros.
They are not economic drivers but political accelerators.
B. State-Level Policy Opportunities
Why They Matter
● Stronger and more enforceable than city bans.
● Eliminate all intrastate loopholes.
● Only venue where production bans are possible.
● Multiple states adopting bans (sales or production) makes industry rebirth unlikely.
Which States Matter Most
● New York → decisive (production + sales).
● Pennsylvania → meaningful because of Philadelphia.
● Colorado → Denver is the main prize; a statewide extension is feasible.
States like Texas and Florida are currently unrealistic for political reasons.
3. Ballot Measures vs. Legislative
Lobbying
A. What Has Passed So Far
All U.S. foie gras bans to date (NYC, Pittsburgh, Brookline, Chicago’s brief ban, California
retail ban) were won via legislative lobbying, not direct democracy.
B. Ballot Measures: Where They’re Feasible
Ballot measures are available in roughly half of states and tend to be:
● More durable (less vulnerable to legislative rollback)
● More expensive
● More visible (bigger public spectacle)
Ballot measures could be viable for:
● Washington DC
● Denver
● Portland
● Possibly Las Vegas
● Possibly Miami
● Possibly Texas metros (depending on home-rule structure)
Not viable for:
● Chicago
● Philadelphia
● Boston
C. Strategic Assessment
Foie gras is low-salience and flies under the radar, making quiet legislative paths more
efficient:
● Less cost
● Less opposition mobilization
● Faster wins
Chicago might be a rare case where a ballot measure could lock in a stronger, more durable
ban—but only if the political math makes sense.
Condensed Strategic Summary
● City sales bans do most of the real-world work in eliminating the market.
● State sales bans harden the policy and close loopholes.
● State production bans (especially in New York) are the final, definitive mechanism for
ending domestic foie gras production.
● Force-fed product bans have broader potential impact but need more research.
● Small-city wins matter for momentum, not markets.
● Ballot measures can be powerful but are situational; lobbying wins are usually
cheaper and quieter.
●
4. Strategic Targeting of Locations
A. Criteria for Choosing Targets
● Economic impact: How much market volume the jurisdiction controls.
○ Post-California contraction: Production fell from ~450 to ~370 tons after CA’s
ban — a ~20% national contraction.
○ NYC’s potential impact: A surviving NYC ban could deliver another massive
contraction and destabilize the entire industry.
● Winnability: Can the policy realistically pass with available resources and political
conditions?
B. High-Impact Target Markets
● New York City (~27%)
● Chicago (~10%)
● Las Vegas (~9%)
● Washington DC Metro (~8%)
● Miami / Palm Beach (~6%)
● Boston (~5%)
● Philadelphia (~4%)
● Houston (~4%)
● Dallas–Fort Worth (~3.5%)
● New Orleans (~3.5%)
● Seattle (2%)
● Atlanta (2%)
● Orlando (2%)
● Honolulu (1%)
● Denver (1%)
● Austin/San Antonio (1%)
● Phoenix/Scottsdale (1%)
● Portland (0.7%)
● Minneapolis–St Paul (0.7%)
● Charleston (0.5%)
Top Foie Gras City Markets
City
% of U.S.
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
New York City
27%
~135,000 ducks
~200,000 lbs
~$12.5M
Chicago
10%
~50,000 ducks
~74,000 lbs
~$4.7M
Las Vegas
9%
~45,000 ducks
~67,000 lbs
~$4.2M
Washington DC Metro
8%
~40,000 ducks
~59,000 lbs
~$3.7M
Miami / Palm Beach
6%
~30,000
~44,000 lbs
~$2.8M
Boston
5%
~25,000
~37,000 lbs
~$2.3M
Philadelphia
4%
~20,000
~30,000 lbs
~$1.9M
Houston
4%
~20,000
~30,000 lbs
~$1.9M
Dallas–Fort Worth
3.5%
~17,500
~26,000 lbs
~$1.6M
New Orleans
3.5%
~17,500
~26,000 lbs
~$1.6M
Seattle
2%
~10,000
~15,000 lbs
~$0.95M
Atlanta
2%
~10,000
~15,000 lbs
~$0.95M
Orlando
2%
~10,000
~15,000 lbs
~$0.95M
Honolulu
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Denver
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Austin/San Antonio
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Phoenix/Scottsdale
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Portland
0.7%
~3,500
~5,200 lbs
~$0.33M
Minneapolis–St Paul
0.7%
~3,500
~5,200 lbs
~$0.33M
Charleston
0.5%
~2,500
~3,700 lbs
~$0.23M
Dozens of mid-size U.S.
cities
7%
~35,000
~52,000 lbs
~$3.3M
● NYC (crown jewel; ~25%+ of U.S. demand; largest single blow)
● Chicago
● Las Vegas
● Washington, DC
● Denver
● Boston
● Philadelphia
● Texas metros (Houston, DFW, Austin/San Antonio)
C. The Cultural/Momentum Value of Smaller Cities
● Cities like Evanston, Boulder, and Aurora have little direct economic impact.
● But they:
○ Build activist capacity
○ Demonstrate movement viability
○ Increase political momentum
○ Signal cultural decline of foie gras
○ Slightly raise win probability in larger nearby metros
Political Momentum
Culture Shifts as Political Fuel
● Moral revulsion builds political power: Cultural change enables big policy wins and
discourages new entrants.
● Shrinking market = weaker future defenses: Less money and lower confidence
reduces the farms’ ability to fight.
Long-Term Psychological Impact
● Make succession unattractive: The next generation of HVFG/La Belle leadership
must see no future in the business.
● Perceived decline accelerates actual decline: Industry players become less willing to
invest in a future that looks increasingly doomed.
Economic Impact Benchmarks
Historical Precedent
● Post-California contraction: Production fell from ~450 to ~370 tons after CA’s ban —
a ~20% national contraction.
● NYC’s potential impact: A surviving NYC ban could deliver another massive
contraction and destabilize the entire industry.
Smaller Bans
● Symbolic victories: Cities like Pittsburgh matter mainly for momentum, not direct
economic harm.
● Cumulative effect: Even small bans matter when added to a pile of pressure points.
Foie Gras Industry Collapse Pathways:
City & State Market-Removal
Scenarios
Introduction
The objective is industry collapse: the permanent shutdown of Hudson Valley Foie Gras
(HVFG) and La Belle Farm. If these two facilities close, U.S. foie gras production ends.
Restaurant and corporate pressure can support the effort, but the core mechanism is
policy-based market removal:
Remove markets → Destroy revenue → Collapse the farms.
This entry models collapse pathways using estimated consumption data (ducks, pounds,
dollars) for each city and state. These numbers are not precise statistics but are directionally
accurate enough to evaluate the strategic significance of specific victories.
I. Baseline Market Conditions
National baseline:
● ~500,000 ducks/year
● ~740,000 lbs/year
● ~$47M market
Largest markets (annual):
● NYC: 135k ducks / 200k lbs / $12.5M
● Chicago: 50k ducks / 74k lbs / $4.7M
● Las Vegas: 45k ducks / 67k lbs / $4.2M
● Washington DC Metro: 40k ducks / 59k lbs / $3.7M
● Miami/Palm Beach: 30k ducks
● Boston: 25k ducks
● Philadelphia: 20k ducks
Every sales ban removes these numbers directly from the national industry.
II. Baseline Scenario: NYC Ban Holds
If NYC’s sales ban survives the courts, the industry loses:
● 135,000 ducks
● 200,000 lbs
● $12.5M
→ 27% of national demand
Remaining:
● ~365,000 ducks
● ~540,000 lbs
● ~$34.5M
→ 73% of original
This 73% becomes the new baseline for collapse modeling.
III. Collapse Curve (Sequential Market
Losses)
Using ducks as the primary indicator:
Event
Remaining
Ducks
% of
Origin
al
NYC holds
~365,000
73%
+ DC (40k)
~325,000
65%
+ Philadelphia (20k)
~305,000
61%
+ Pennsylvania
~285,000
57%
+ Boston (25k)
~260,000
53%
+ Massachusetts
~240,000
50%
+ Chicago (50k)
~190,000
44%
+ Denver (5k)
~185,000
37–38%
+ Portland (3.5k)
~181,500
36–37%
+ Washington State
(10k)
~171,500
34–35%
Industry becomes nonviable below ~180,000 ducks/year.
IV. Key Strategic Fact
The industry cannot survive the loss of:
● NYC
● Chicago
● DC/DMV
● Boston + Philadelphia
This combination removes the core consumption + prestige markets.
V. Current Active Campaigns
Four active city campaigns:
1. Washington, D.C. — 40k ducks
2. Philadelphia — 20k ducks
3. Denver — 5k ducks
4. Portland — 3.5k ducks
Combined impact: ~68,500 ducks (≈14% of national market).
VI. Collapse Scenario: Active Campaigns
+ NYC Hold
Assumptions:
NYC holds; DC, Philly, Portland, Denver pass; PA & MA follow their cities.
Market reduction:
● NYC → 73%
○ DC → 65%
○ Philly → 61%
○ Portland → 60%
○ Denver → 59%
○ Pennsylvania → 56%
○ Boston → 53%
○ Massachusetts → 50%
Outcome:
Industry shrinks to ~50% — near the collapse threshold, without Chicago, Las Vegas, Texas,
or Florida.
VII. Chicago as the Strategic Keystone
Chicago alone accounts for:
● 50k ducks / 74k lbs / $4.7M (~10%)
Adding Chicago to the above scenario:
● ~240,000 ducks → ~190,000 ducks
→ ~44% of original
This crosses the operational failure line.
Chicago is required for most fast-collapse timelines.
VIII. Why Hard States Are Unnecessary
Texas, Florida, and Nevada have large markets but:
● are not politically winnable
● rely on chef-driven demand rather than cultural embeddedness
● can be pressured by non-legislative means
Collapse does not depend on winning these states.
IX. One-Page Version
● Active campaigns + NYC hold → ~59% remaining
● Add PA + MA → ~50%
● Add Chicago → ~44%
● Add WA + OR + CO + HI → ~34% (terminal zone)
X. If NYC Ban Fails
Two fallback strategies:
A. Replace NYC with a New York State Ban
● Removes the same 135k ducks
● Collapse timeline remains identical
● State framing avoids NYC-specific legal vulnerabilities
B. Skip New York Entirely
● Begin collapse curve at 100%
● Slower path
● Requires:
○ Chicago
○ PA + MA
○ WA + OR + CO
○ Another Northeast win
● Stabilizes at 55–60% before further erosion pushes below viability
XI. Summary
● City sales bans in major metros are the main engine of collapse.
● State bans consolidate city wins and accelerate decline.
● Chicago is the single most important missing victory.
● Hard states (TX, FL, NV) are not needed for collapse.
● With realistic wins, the industry reaches 34–44% of original size — below survival
threshold.
Other Strategy Mechanisms
Supporting Strategic Efforts Beyond
Policy
Overview
The core mechanism for ending foie gras in the United States is policy-based market
removal:
● City sales bans in key markets
● followed by state sales bans
● and ultimately production bans in decisive jurisdictions (especially New York)
These policies remove markets, collapse revenue, and push Hudson Valley Foie Gras (HVFG)
and La Belle toward bankruptcy. Once weakened, production bans can finish the industry
permanently.
However, policy fights are hard, and HVFG in particular has resisted existential threats for
decades. They fight aggressively in the courts, oppose ballot measures, mobilize restaurant
communities, and challenge every major ban.
To win policy battles in major metros, supporting strategic efforts are needed. These efforts
make policy passage more likely, strengthen messaging, improve public narrative, weaken
the farms’ ability to fight, and drain their financial resources.
The following sections outline these complementary efforts.
1. Investigations & Research
Investigations (HVFG, La Belle)
● Reveal current conditions: disease, mortality, water issues, worker harms, animal
abuse.
● Provide updated evidence that prevents farms from claiming “reform.”
● Supply compelling visuals and facts for lobbying, council meetings, and media.
● Give advocates fresh, specific material for messaging.
Narrative & Messaging Research
● Helps refine arguments most effective for city and state decision-makers.
● Produces polling and framing data that policy groups can directly use.
● Keeps cruelty, public health issues, and environmental harms central in discourse.
Shared Datasets & Infrastructure
● Avoids duplication across organizations.
● Provides a unified evidence base for campaigns nationwide.
● Tracks progress toward collapse (markets removed, ducks reduced, revenue
eliminated).
● Supports long-term coordination between groups.
2. Litigation Strategy
Legal Pressure as a Cost Center
● Lawsuits force HVFG/La Belle to spend heavily on defense.
● PR-sensitive cases create reputational crises and require additional spending.
● Time spent on litigation reduces their capacity to fight policy battles.
Cost-Asymmetry
● Well-targeted cases are inexpensive for advocates but expensive for the farms.
● Multiple cases create sustained legal entanglement and cumulative financial
exhaustion.
3. Public, Corporate, & Cultural Pressure
Reputational Pressure
● Negative media coverage increases marketing and crisis-management costs.
● Damages the farms’ standing with lawmakers and city officials.
● Undermines the willingness of the next generation to continue running the business.
Restaurant & Distributor Dynamics
● Restaurant or distributor drop-offs shrink available outlets.
● Chain-level pressure impacts multiple cities at once and shifts industry norms.
● Having respected restaurants oppose foie gras helps prevent repeal fights later.
Protest–Policy Interaction
● In some cities, aggressive protest tactics can make legislators hesitant.
● Activism should be aligned with policy strategy to support—not
undermine—legislative goals.
4. Strategic Purpose of These Supporting
Efforts
These efforts strengthen the policy strategy by:
● Weakening HVFG and La Belle’s ability to fight
● Creating stronger, more persuasive messaging
● Improving media and narrative conditions
● Reducing opposition resources
● Building a public climate hostile to foie gras
● Supporting activists with evidence, infrastructure, and tools
● Making policy campaigns easier to win and easier to defend after passage
They are not substitutes for policy—but they are essential support systems that make
policy victories more likely and accelerate industry decline.
Pros and Cons
Pros and cons
Pros of Pursuing a Foie Gras Ban
● Provides an abolitionist, momentum-building victory against a small, weak industry
that can realistically be beaten.
● Demonstrates that extreme cruelty can be removed from the market through
organized pressure.
● Targets one of the most publicly indefensible practices in animal agriculture; public
opinion is already overwhelmingly aligned.
● Creates a clear moral narrative around gratuitous cruelty, reinforcing broader
abolitionist framing.
● Builds organizing capacity, media attention, and political relationships that can
translate to larger campaigns.
● Offers a symbolic victory with outsized cultural resonance relative to the number of
animals affected.
● Establishes precedent for banning specific cruelty-based products, lowering barriers
for future bans.
Cons of Pursuing a Foie Gras Ban
● Affects a relatively small number of animals, limiting the direct impact on suffering.
● U.S. foie gras production is niche and largely self-sustaining; banning it may not
meaningfully reduce global production.
● Imports from France, Hungary, or other countries could replace domestic production if
demand persists.
● Without reducing consumer demand, supply may shift rather than disappear.
● Political capital spent here may compete with opportunities that benefit far more
animals.
● Could be criticized as a symbolic campaign with limited material impact.
● Risk of diverting organizing energy from campaigns that build broader political or
economic leverage.
Alternatives to a Foie Gras Ban Campaign
1. Other Product-Specific Bans
● Pursue fur sales bans, which affect far more animals and have strong public support.
● Target cruelty-defined products (e.g., force-fed frogs, exotic skins) where industry
power is low.
2. Factory-Farming Reforms With Larger Impact
● Support Prop 12 / EATS / Save Our Bacon–related defense or expansion efforts.
● Push crate-free or cage-free expansions where political coalitions already exist.
● Develop state or city minimum-standards laws covering far larger animal
populations.
3. Corporate Campaign Track
● Reinvest in corporate commitments (poultry welfare, cage-free enforcement, broiler
reforms).
● Use corporate wins to build leverage, coalition power, and public momentum before
re-entering politics.
4. “Wild and Mild” Animal Issues
● Advance bans or restrictions on wildlife killing contests, trapping, or cruel hunting
practices.
● Support wildlife coexistence and urban animal welfare policy reforms with broad
public sympathy.
5. Political Movement-Building
● Build local and statewide political infrastructure (organizing, endorsements,
candidate support).
● Invest in ballot-measure readiness, polling, and relationship-building for future large
campaigns.
● Strengthen pro-animal representation in city councils, legislatures, and agencies.
6. Plant-Based and Demand-Side Strategies
● Fund plant-based defaults and institutional adoption in schools, hospitals,
universities.
● Support public procurement reforms that shift large food systems without direct
bans.
● Invest in marketing and cultural work that drives down demand for animal products.
7. Broad Movement Infrastructure
● Strengthen training programs, leadership pipelines, volunteer capacity, and
organizer development.
● Support cross-state networks and coalitions preparing for bigger legislative fights.
● Fund high-impact litigation, research, and policy shops that shape long-term wins.
8. Issue-Agnostic “Everything Except Foie Gras” Path
● Prioritize areas where scale, political opportunity, or movement leverage are
significantly higher.
● Deploy resources where there’s clearer evidence of mass impact and a stronger
theory of change.
Architecture of Strategy
● We have resources, not execution capacity: We can’t directly run campaigns or
command organizations to do specific actions; our leverage is funding, relationships,
and strategic framing.
● We need to choose engagement types carefully: Because we lack direct control, we
must be selective about which tactics and partners we empower.
● Goal: make the foie gras farms maximally vulnerable: These farms are the central,
deeply invested industry actors; weakening them weakens the entire U.S. foie gras
system.
● Aim for the worst, most devastating investigation possible: Identify what a
“nightmare” expose would look like for the industry; understand the full range of
angles, abuses, and structural weaknesses.
● Get current, extremely high-quality investigative footage: Up-to-date
documentation of conditions on U.S. foie gras farms that surpasses previous
investigations.
● Map every investigative angle available: Understand all possible lines of
attack—welfare, labor, environmental, corporate governance, financial vulnerabilities,
distribution, etc.
● Recognize that farms are the only actors with deep, long-term commitment:
Restaurants and retailers don’t have ideological or structural investment; the farms
are the ones who fight on every front.
● Objective: erode the farms’ capacity to fight future battles: Every unit of cost,
distraction, or defensive posture weakens their ability to resist upcoming campaigns.
● Apply attrition through constant pressure: Small costs accumulate; each setback
strains already thin profit margins and reduces resilience.
● Bring in organizations like We the Free for scalable education and exposure: Train
and deploy groups that can operate nationally or globally to amplify the issue.:
● Educational and social-media-driven content must exceed historical quality:
Improve the level of storytelling, visuals, and strategic messaging to reach broader
audiences.
● Look for tactics that impose disproportionate cost on industry: Identify actions
where the farm’s defensive or corrective costs are significantly higher than the
activist’s or investigator’s costs.
● Use media nightmares as a force multiplier: Public scandals create cascading
damage across sales, partners, labor morale, regulators, and investors
● Pursue secondary pressure targets: Identify which businesses—distributors,
trucking companies, vendors, service providers—can be pressured to drop ties or
increase scrutiny.
● Explore pathways to cut off critical markets: Political and regulatory attacks that
remove access to high-value markets (e.g., major cities) force existential decisions for
farms.
● Understand the farms’ limited ability to absorb financial hits: Their profit margins
are small; legal defense, compliance upgrades, and market losses quickly become
destabilizing.
● Make them confront hard decisions repeatedly: The objective is to force constant
triage—legal costs, PR crises, distribution uncertainty—until strategic exhaustion sets
in.
It'd be interesting to get some kind of coalition of gourmet chefs and be like, "Oh God, yeah, I
won't use foie gras because it's ridiculously cruel." You know, so you gotta answer the free
choice thing, like the idea that a government even allows this kind of practice is certainly an
interesting angle because that's going to be a sort of preventing thing. nanny state
overreach, and I can't believe the government's doing this. It's just, oh, it's just like food. I
can't believe they're telling me what to eat.
City / State Estimates
City / State Estimates
These are very rough estimates. These are primarily used to inform location based strategies
for building political momentum, eliminating substantial markets for foie gras products in the
United States.These are useful for illustrating the relative importance of the NYC foie gras
ban holding up.
1. City-by-city breakdown (current, restaurant-driven market)
Share of total U.S. foie gras consumption by city/metro
(Central estimates; all numbers are % of U.S. consumption ≈ 100%.)
Top tier (NYC + big 4–5 metros):
Rank
City / Metro
Central est. % of U.S.
Notes
1
New York City, NY
27%
● PDF and external sources put NYC at 20–30% of total US sales and ~1,000 restaurants
pre-ban fight;
● I use 27% as a midpoint. (Business Insider)
2
Chicago, IL
10%
● Major Midwestern hub;
● had its own ban (2006–08) then strong rebound;
● lots of Michelin-level and steakhouse volume.
3
Las Vegas, NV
9%
● Strip resorts + celebrity chef restaurants;
● PDF calls foie gras “pretty plentiful” and Eater finds dozens of venues.
● Vegas also soaks up some ex-California demand.
4
Washington, DC metro (DC/MD/VA)
8%
● High density of Michelin/French/power-dining;
● no bans, steady demand, plus affluent suburbs.
5
Miami & Palm Beach, FL
6%
● Luxury hotel and resort dining + wealthy Palm Beach crowd;
Rank
City / Metro
Central est. % of U.S.
Notes
● foie burgers, seared foie, tasting menus.
6
Boston, MA
5%
● Strong French/New American + steakhouse scene;
● likely top market in Northeast after NYC.
7
Philadelphia, PA
4%
● Solid fine-dining + quirky things like foie gras cheesesteaks;
● activist pressure but no ban.
8
Houston, TX
4%
● Oil-money steakhouses + chef-driven spots;
● luxury add-on ingredient.
9
Dallas–Fort Worth, TX
3.5%
● Similar profile to Houston with steakhouses and French/modern American fine dining.
10
New Orleans, LA
3.5%
● French-Creole heritage;
● foie woven into high-end local cuisine;
● likely high per-capita, modest total volume.
Those 10 together = 80% of estimated U.S. consumption, which lines up with the PDF’s “top
10 cities ≈ ~80%” statement.
Third tier (noticeable but clearly smaller):
Rank
City / Metro
Central est. % of U.S.
Notes
11
Seattle, WA
2%
● Some high-end demand but under activist pressure;
● niche and somewhat fragile.
12
Atlanta, GA
2%
● Growing fine-dining scene, especially in Buckhead/Midtown;
● foie present but not central.
Rank
City / Metro
Central est. % of U.S.
Notes
13
Orlando, FL
2%
● Driven almost entirely by resort tasting menus (e.g., Disney’s Victoria & Albert’s) and
convention-tourism fine dining.
14
Honolulu, HI
1%
● Luxury tourist market; foie as a prestige ingredient in hotel fine dining.
15
Denver, CO
1%
● A few upscale restaurants + ski-town spillover (Aspen/Vail);
● still pretty niche.
16
Portland, OR
0.7%
● Culinary city but with ethics-driven food culture;
● small and contested foie niche.
17
Minneapolis–St Paul, MN
0.7%
● One small producer (Au Bon Canard) and a handful of restaurants;
● survey data suggests most diners unfamiliar and supportive of bans.
18
Austin & San Antonio, TX
1%
● A few ambitious restaurants that use foie, but tiny relative to state beef/barbecue focus.
19
Phoenix & Scottsdale, AZ
1%
● Resort and retiree fine dining;
● foie is an occasional luxury item.
20
Charleston, SC
0.5%
● “Punches above its weight” gastronomy;
● a couple of foie-using restaurants.
Long tail:
● “Other mid-size / long-tail U.S. cities” – ~7.3%
○ Detroit,
○ St. Louis,
○ Kansas City, etc.:
○ usually one or two restaurants per city, plus mail-order foie for home cooks.
California today
● Because California bans restaurant sales of force-fed foie gras, LA, SF, SD, Napa,
etc. are effectively at ~0% of the restaurant market now.
● A 2020 ruling allows out-of-state mail-order for personal use, so there is some
low-single-digit % consumption in CA, but it’s diffuse and home-kitchen, not
restaurant-driven. The model above folds that into the “long tail” instead of giving
those cities explicit shares.
2. State-by-state breakdown (current)
Here I’ve aggregated the city/metro estimates into states, plus a few multi-state regions.
Again: directionally right, numerically fuzzy.
Rank
State / Region
Central est. % of U.S.
foie gras consumption
Main drivers
1
New York (NYC + rest of state)
~28%
● NYC alone ≈25–30%; a bit more for upstate/LI fine dining & retail. (Global News)
2
Illinois (mainly Chicago)
~9%
● Chicago dominates Midwest consumption.
3
Nevada (Las Vegas)
~9%
● Strip resorts and celebrity chef restaurants.
4
Texas (Houston, DFW, Austin/San
Antonio)
~9%
● Combined effect of multiple big metro fine-dining/steakhouse markets.
5
Florida (Miami/Palm Beach + Orlando) ~9%
● Two distinct luxury clusters (South Florida + Orlando resorts).
Rank
State / Region
Central est. % of U.S.
foie gras consumption
Main drivers
6
DC/MD/VA “DMV” region
~8%
● D.C. proper + affluent Maryland/Virginia suburbs.
7
Massachusetts
~4%
● Boston and suburban fine dining.
8
Pennsylvania
~4%
● Philadelphia and a bit in other cities.
9
Louisiana
~3%
● New Orleans-centric, small outside NOLA.
10
Washington
~2%
● Seattle focus.
Totals = 100% by construction.
Below is a clean revision of your Foie Gras Markets section with:
1. A new Tier 4 for states (“everything else”).
2. Approximate numbers of birds, pounds, and dollars alongside every %, scaled to
your baseline:
○ 370 tons/year ≈ 740,000 lbs
○ ~500,000 ducks/year nationally (post-California contraction)
○ National retail value ≈ $45–50M/year (farmgate + wholesale + restaurant
multipliers)
All numbers are central estimates, directional, and rounded.
Foie Gras Markets
City-Level Markets
(National baseline: ~500,000 ducks/year → ~740,000 lbs → ~$47M total market)
Tier 1 — Dominant Hubs (~60% of U.S.)
City
% of U.S.
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
New York City (~27%)
27%
~135,000
ducks
~200,000
lbs
~$12.5M
Chicago (~10%)
10%
~50,000 ducks
~74,000 lbs
~$4.7M
Las Vegas (~9%)
9%
~45,000 ducks
~67,000 lbs
~$4.2M
Washington DC Metro (~8%)
8%
~40,000 ducks
~59,000 lbs
~$3.7M
Tier 2 — Strong Luxury Markets (~20%)
City
%
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
Miami / Palm Beach (~6%)
6%
~30,00
0
~44,000
lbs
~$2.8M
Boston (~5%)
5%
~25,00
0
~37,000
lbs
~$2.3M
Philadelphia (~4%)
4%
~20,00
0
~30,000
lbs
~$1.9M
Houston (~4%)
4%
~20,00
0
~30,000
lbs
~$1.9M
Dallas–Fort Worth (~3.5%)
3.5
%
~17,50
0
~26,000
lbs
~$1.6M
New Orleans (~3.5%)
3.5
%
~17,50
0
~26,000
lbs
~$1.6M
Tier 3 — Secondary but Noticeable (~14%)
City
%
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
Seattle (2%)
2%
~10,00
0
~15,000
lbs
~$0.95M
Atlanta (2%)
2%
~10,00
0
~15,000
lbs
~$0.95M
Orlando (2%)
2%
~10,00
0
~15,000
lbs
~$0.95M
Honolulu (1%)
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Denver (1%)
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Austin/San Antonio (1%)
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Phoenix/Scottsdale (1%)
1%
~5,000
~7,400 lbs
~$0.47M
Portland (0.7%)
0.7
%
~3,500
~5,200 lbs
~$0.33M
Minneapolis–St Paul (0.7%)
0.7
%
~3,500
~5,200 lbs
~$0.33M
Charleston (0.5%)
0.5
%
~2,500
~3,700 lbs
~$0.23M
Tier 4 — Long Tail (~7%)
Tier
%
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
Dozens of mid-size U.S.
cities
7
%
~35,00
0
~52,000
lbs
~$3.3M
California:
Restaurant consumption = 0%.
Mail-order (legal loophole) = blended into the long tail.
State-Level Markets
(Same national baseline: 500k ducks / 740k lbs / ~$47M)
Tier 1 — Singular Dominance
State
%
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
New York (~28%)
28%
~140,000
~207,000 lbs
~$13.2M
Tier 2 — The 9% Cluster (Illinois • Nevada • Texas • Florida)
State
%
Ducks
rPounds
Dollars
Illinois (~9%)
9%
~45,000
~67,000 lbs
~$4.2M
Nevada (~9%)
9%
~45,000
~67,000 lbs
~$4.2M
Texas (~9%)
9%
~45,000
~67,000 lbs
~$4.2M
Florida (~9%)
9%
~45,000
~67,000 lbs
~$4.2M
Tier 3 — Single-City Anchored States (2–4%)
State
%
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
Massachusetts (~4%)
4%
~20,000
~30,000 lbs
~$1.9M
Pennsylvania (~4%)
4%
~20,000
~30,000 lbs
~$1.9M
Louisiana (~3%)
3%
~15,000
~22,000 lbs
~$1.4M
Washington (~2%)
2%
~10,000
~15,000 lbs
~$0.95M
Tier 4 — All Remaining States (~6%)
Tier
%
Ducks
Pounds
Dollars
Other U.S. states combined
~6%
~30,000
~44,000 lbs
~$2.8M
Investigation
I would like to do investigations of Hudson Valley Foie Gras and La Belle Foie Gras, and at
least figure out some ways. I'm looking at Au Canard and at Backwoods in Louisiana. That is
the first thing I want to try to do, organize a global look at the foie gras, domestic foie gras
industry production in the United States
In relation to Hudson Valley foie gras in the United States, I have read that they purchase
one day old hatch chickens. I mean ducks. It's ducks not chickens. I would like to find out
about that. Like, what is going on in the hatchery situation? Just really get a sense of how
each stage of the production cycle looks. The hatching, the initial sort of getting growing,
and then the whatever majority of their life where they're in the big barn, and then the
fattening, and then the ultimate slaughter. I just want to figure out how to get a look at each
of these things at Hudson Valley and LaBelle. If LaBelle is truly doing its own food
production, I'd like to see that as well.
I would like to have an investigation that really just...look at everything. I want to get a total
strategic analysis of each of those two major operations for sure. Just understand the
workers' issues, like who is the demographics of the people working there, what's kind of like
organizational chart look like, what has been the history of violations, is there anything they
do on the environmental front, is there anything, is there anything that is...I guarantee there
is...I need to go over the...I need to go over the...Wow! This has been a major investigation
there.